people get a lot of mileage out of conflating "farmer" with "the CEO of an agribusiness company worth millions"

It's a very strange linguistic problem, I suppose brought on by the economic reality that the only way to profitably farm is to own as much as you can.

But like, you wouldn't call the CEO of Tyson chicken "a butcher"

Narrator: in recent years, truck farming has become big business

Joel: but not for these people

@InternetEh I would like to boost this one thousand times and staple it to the face of my horrible congressional representative

@amaral yeah, it was the best example I could think of lol

@InternetEh On a serious note, at least in my spanish-speaking neck 'o the woods, although we have some names for specific trades and/or jobs: campesino/a , temporero/a, criador/a, labrador/a vs. the owner, latifundista; there is a complicated term: agricultor -- that's ambiguous in the sense you're referring to.

@InternetEh you mean to tell me the duc d'aquitaine isn't part of the peasantry

@InternetEh it's also worth examining whether the "small family farm" has owners who actually harvest their own crop or even spend much time in the field, or are more like farm managers who hire workers for most daily tasks. Obviously true small-timers exist but much like landlords I feel like the true homesteaders are mostly a fig leaf for the corporations.

@wilbr yeah farming has their small business tyrants too

@InternetEh Local politics has been fighting a really stupid version of this linguistic problem. We have a neighborhood named Butchertown from when the era when that was a small business. The neighborhood has a massive blight from a huge industrial pig slaughterhouse. People all the time claim you can’t kick the last “butcher” out of Butchertown. Uh, that’s not how names work? That plant isn’t a butcher shop?

@PeterWyrm my grandpa was a fake farmer. He was just retired and had land and horses. But I was convinced he was a farmer when I was a kid

@InternetEh My oldest brother doesn’t get called grandpa by his grandkids. He’s simply called Farmer, as a title. The kids use it just like someone would say grandpa. I love it. Of course, so does he. When the oldest grandson was little, I was having a video chat with my niece, his mother, & because of the superficial resemblance between me and my brother, the toddler called me Farmer as well. It was so sweet. (Context: I’m the least likely member of my family to actually be a farmer.)

@InternetEh we have a similar problem over in the UK where they say "fisherman" instead of "obscenely wealthy ceo who is emptying the ocean at unsustainable rates"

As a UKian involved in food growing - its the same here.
Most people would think different but within the industry the farmer is the person in charge of the operation. Generally the person that owns or rents the land. Scale doesnt come into it.
If they are big they may employ one or more farm managers.
Most employ farm workers / labourers at least some of the time and/or get agricultural contractors to turn up with their flashy modern tractors, sprayers, harvesters etc. @InternetEh

It's certainly useful to remember that "farmer" isn't the same as "agricultural labourer", even if there are some farmers that do agricultural labour or have done in their past.

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