disappointing that the discourse is gonna become "should we take guns out of movies" and not "is it wrong to hire untrained scab labor and make people work 14 hour days with no pay until they're tired and reckless"

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We are living through a moment where all the cracks in the labor market are showing and people are starting to realize it's not just their job or their boss that's making them miserable, and there's a concerted effort not to explore any of this

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@InternetEh most of our media is owned by rich people and studiously avoids anything that would threaten the status quo

@InternetEh guns aren't the only safety risk on movie sets; as you mention there's far worse such as unpaid internships (as much of a problem in UK/Europe even if we have greater safety rules), and because its a "dream career" people were putting up with far more toxicity than something like an office job or working in a factory..

@vfrmedia I'm reminded of when Jeremy Clarkson punched his producer after they didn't provide a meal and he had been performing pretty much every waking minute that day. Sure, Clarkson said some things that he shouldn't have in a heat of hanger but, christ on fire, performers shouldn't be pushed to that point to start with.

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Anthea Turner was blown up and badly burned on a BBC *kids* show as she was incorrectly allowed to stand in the blast range of a pyro effect; I once worked alongside a broadcast engineer who was on that programme and he said he was offered several thousand pounds to "accidentally" put the compliance recording tape in the bulk eraser (he refused, and was laid off from BBC Manchester at the next round of cutbacks)

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the BBC has been toxic for about 30-40 years, I volunteer at the community radio station and we get a lot of ex-BBC folk and few of them have a good word to say for the place...

@vfrmedia Yeah, I'm not exactly trying to white-knight Clarkson here, particularly after driving a car with a two stroke engine through Broadcasting House in the middle of a workday. Even modern British buildings are notoriously bad for ventilation by American standards...

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@vfrmedia That said, a Peel P60 seems like it'd be a wicked fun commuter car in Tulsa, especially if converted to electric since there's no fucking way I'd want to drive one into a QuikTrip or Costco fuel line.
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@vfrmedia Literally not an issue with humiliation, I'd rock that shit.
The problem is my 20 year old beater pickup has a forward blind spot on the right side large enough I won't move it until all small children are accounted for.
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@vfrmedia A Peel car would be able to hide completely in such a blind spot, which 20 years ago my truck would have been exceptionally blind, but is now the norm on American pickups.
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@vfrmedia Like, I feel like if that happened in the US, especially to a PBS actor with union rep, the labor response would be "fuck all y'all" for at least a month. @InternetEh

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unions did push back a lot in 1970s/80s and even put both BBC and ITV off air at several points, but the management and Thatcho fought back and broke their power (especially by moving production to smaller independent production companies)

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@vfrmedia I also think it's pretty bad that that everyone focused on Clarkson punching his producer and calling him a "lazy Irish fuck" like it was a race thing and not the part where it was the evening, he just learned he wasn't getting food, and had been working and sleeping without food since the morning of the previous day. @InternetEh

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