It's weird to me that people don't openly talk about how Elon musk is a fraud when he's done stuff like the child submarines, the plan for fixing traffic by turning the ground under cities into swiss cheese, and the cars that have the hardware for autonomous driving "already installed." They're not even good lies.
In case the space junk thing was news to you, it is happening as we speak. SpaceX has a satellite project called Starlink, and they are launching scores of small satellites every couple of weeks. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/science-and-health/2020/1/7/21003272/space-x-starlink-astronomy-light-pollution
And he's not even the only one doing this. Because we live in capitalism, we have to have multiple competing micro-satellite firms. Each one wanting to launch thousands of satellites.
I'm not saying these wouldn't be good to have, to provide uninterruptible internet to rural areas, but this is the shittiest way to do it, with all the attendant inefficiencies and lack of care about unintended consequences we usually see from the private sector
@InternetEh total mass surveillance all over the surface of the planet
it's okay to say these wouldn't be a good thing to have
@InternetEh Do people even need uninterruptible internet though? It would probably be better for the environment to switch to protocols that can tolerate delays and to have UIs that work with that. Like Secure Scuttlebutt or named data networks. But of course those don't feed any billionaire's pocket and ego.
@InternetEh I really wonder (it may sound like asked in bad faith, but it is not):
What's a better way to implement long shot ideas than making it a race with high risk and high reward? Could a government ever realistically do this by itself?
Like you seem to I also dislike the duplication of efforts in a market, but at the same time appreciate the effects of competition (/horror of a monopoly) just as much.
@InternetEh I have very mixed feelings about Starlink and many of Musk's endeavors. I also recognize that many ISPs have an extremely bad relationship with rural communities and that rural communities are ill served by the status-quo. Starlink might light a fire under companies that have had captive consumers up until now. The digital divide in this country is very real. I also think there are a lot of liberal people who might consider moving to more rural areas if there was better internet.
@InternetEh my first thought is, "Do you want Kessler Syndrome? Because this is how you get Kessler Syndrome."
@maidofclay yeah i mean I assume at some point we're gonna want or need to be up there for some reason or another
@InternetEh The satellites for Starlink were designed with 'assisted' deorbting in mind, instead of being left up in orbit to cause problems at some point in the future. They deorbited 47 of them last October. Everything went to plan.
As for it's efficiency: Previous satellite internet deployments put the satellites in a very high orbit, introducing multi-second lag, and extremely slow speeds. They're extremely expensive, $5+/mb of traffic is considered cheap.
@InternetEh The downside of having Starlink sat's in lower orbits is that more of them are required to provide coverage.
Kessler's Syndrome is a valid AF concern with that.
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